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Rub rub rub rub it on bear's tiiiiiitttttttiiiiiiies

well I feel silly now. I just read Brunsons Blog, and he told a story about how back in the day, this fella who called himself 'Bear' took almost $30,000 off him at HU sngs, $400 a pop. He said, and I quote;

alright, let me just add my two cents to all this:

firstly, the matter of "shoving preflop - good with 10BBs, bad with 11?" seriously, read all the posts again, you are basically all saying the same thing, you are constantly agreeing with one another, but making it look like you are adding new viewpoints to the whole discussion everytime. bottom line, blinds are rising faster than a 12-year-old's dick at a porno convention - there will be a lot of shoving going on. depending on how even the stacks are, it will either start at 50/100 or 75/150. maybe two people should each make a vid of their HU match against each other, so we can actually see when, how often and most importantly, with what cards they are shoving.

and secondly, my HU match against connectorz. was their strategy involved posting those comments when i just flopped trip 9's? definitely (on a sidenote, i had no idea that match would get recorded). did i "outplay" you, calling you down with 58 early in the game? sure, why not. was it a mistake raising to 250 and repeatedly folding to your shove? of course. but let me add, not as an excuse, that i was absolutely card dead but didn't wanna back down on the agression as i just took over the chip lead.

this match, as a lot of the other ones, was decided when both players had entered push-or-fold mode, which basically rendered every good move i may have made previously meaningless. if connectorz wins his 60/40 against my 10-7, it's over and nobody would've complained (certainly not me). as it happened, i got my more-or-less lucky double-up and picked up a decent hand shortly after and won it. this match for me was really interesting and fun, but certainly not one i would brag about to my friends, or one where i felt i had completely dominated my opponent. so fair game to connectorz for rigorously defending himself here, and cheers to beear for all the praise and criticism concerning my play, i do appreciate it.

oh and:


1. your super-loose style is widely known.
2. i've seen your 2 previous HU-matches and talked about them with my teammates
3. i raised your BB repeatedly, you kept folding, i knew you would shove back sooner or later with anything half-decent. as it happened, my timing was pretty good on that one (not saying i wouldn't've probably done the same thing with K6 in your position).
in fairness i was getting a LOT of more than playable hands.

okay i guess that's it.

LAD!!!

Okey, I understand, i would probably not go allin with a better hand that yours too, would most likely prefer to play it, except for hands like a8-a10, but guess those are the only hands i would punt that i have you beat with.. But i now know that next time if a guy raiises small blind i will push my aces instead of just making a silly low reraise :)

I was gunna write something along those lines, thought i'd check first. Right, no offense intended to the mighty bear, but my god, you seriously need to stop making out your better than everyone on this site because you've played at higher stakes. The fact you're, who knows, mid 40's, and the people you constantly bash, cunego, connectorz, anyone else, saying you've played higher stakes, you've lived twice as long as these people.

I mean, go ahead, bring up that i dont know what im doing coz i havent played in 200nl cash games. im a student, and im more than happy with a 467% ROI playing donk filled $3 and $4 tournies. The fact you havent played these high cash games and large buyin tournies for so long doesnt seem to factor into your head. Nor the fact, you might have lost an insane amount of "knowledge" you had at those levels you played in a past life. You're no better than half the people on here, results prove it. So get out of your throne and give a bit more respect to peoples opinions and inputs instead of thinking you are the allknowing being.

Because trust me, clearly you're not.

/rant

Quickly, Slevin, I want to quickly highlight at no point have I said anything detrimental about your performance or your game, I think you played very well, and you winning was hardly unfair. You played a solid game and beat me, I had no complaints really until bear told me that I got 'outplayed', repeatedly I hasten to add, and I just took offence to this. Maybe it was the tiredness, and believe you me, I was tired, but I got so annoyed on wednesday night with regards to... everything, and bear telling me I got outplayed when imo, I really wasn't, it was a fairly even game, was the icing on the cake.

However, hearing him go on a huge story telling escapade about how this was the case with ridiculous embellishment with regards to mind games etc. Well. He is too adamant about his opinion, on basic, common poker strategy. Seriously, like there can be any real postflop play with 14bb. It is at its best, raise, call ---> flop. Cbet/checkraise, and once thats done, you have almost critically damaged your stack and your at a huge disadvantage.

@ Pokertuber - i agree with almost everythign you say mate but i am not talking about 10 BB here and lepparaise also makes that assumption. My reference was to when it was 14 BB thats like 40% more chips people and that does make a difference. Connectorz started the shuv war at 14BB after slevin took that mighty chuck outta his chip lead. And if you go back to the point I mention in the time zone on the video and replay it and take into account the change in game play you will hopefully see what I am saying..........

14bb peeps not 10 was what I was refering to............

14BB = 10BB

@ VividAAces - You 100% misunderstand what was meant by that post mate. It was in reference to the playing styles that change the higher the cash levels becomes. As one earlier poster correctly pointed out you do see less shuvn pre flop at lower stakes HU play and when you do play at higher levels you do see much more post flop pay manoevering..........

It was not meant to be any big headed comment it was meant to be a factual comment. And yes your right is has been several years since i have played those games and played at any decent level. Max I have been playing now is $2/$1 cash games and even then I can't get the time to do what I would like. Reason simple- I now have a family and a full time job that is demanding a huge amount from me. This makes Bear now a Hobby player. I would luv to be able to play more etc but time doesn't permit......


However, redundancy is looming next year and poor old bear will more than likely loose job next summer after 14 long hard years with same company !

So I might just get a chance to play a little more poker then - *smiles*