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Did I get max value?
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#1 Posted : 9/5/2010 12:08:58 AM(UTC)
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#2 Posted : 9/5/2010 1:13:44 AM(UTC)
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firing three bullets for value in this spot is definitely not a bad line, your betsizing is pretty weird tho. i mean i get the tiny c-bet since you don't want him to fold under any circumstances, but once he check-calls you gotta start building the pot. in my mind, his c/c means he's having either a flushdraw or a pretty strong queen. the flush gets there, so that's perfect for you. my turnbet would be at least 70% of the pot here to set yourself up for a big river bet if he calls. but well, the same logic applies as on the flop ("god, i hope he doesnt fold..."), so i even get the tiny turnbet. but now, when he check-called TWICE and the river blanks, there's no reason for you to hold back imo. i'd bet close to full pot. the river is where you really lost out on a good chunk of chips.
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yeah your right, I think my turn bet should of seeked value from a made flush and river even more so.

he actually showed up with the only hand that would really pay me on the river apart from a flush which was Q, 10. So a bigger riverbet probably wasnt getting called?


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#4 Posted : 9/5/2010 5:58:41 AM(UTC)
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No, you did not get max value. This is a low stakes donk sit n go with complete idiots. You played it exactly like a king but your opponent thinks he's Stu Ungar and doesn't know to fold. When you have a huge hand at a low buy in donkament, you BET A LOT. they call everything. hell that idiot would have called the flop with J-9 off suit and the turn as well. You probably could have gotten so much more, because OMG He flopped a queen. That is the nuts to them.
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KJofclubs wrote:
No, you did not get max value. This is a low stakes donk sit n go with complete idiots. You played it exactly like a king but your opponent thinks he's Stu Ungar and doesn't know to fold. When you have a huge hand at a low buy in donkament, you BET A LOT. they call everything. hell that idiot would have called the flop with J-9 off suit and the turn as well. You probably could have gotten so much more, because OMG He flopped a queen. That is the nuts to them.




Wow you ARE an angry little man aren't you.

Pretty sure I was asking what the best default line in this situation is to maximise value and thoughts on bet sizing. But yeah you can just go on a rant if you want.

When I want to know how much fish who will call anything will call, i'll look you up.


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#5 Posted : 9/5/2010 1:53:51 PM(UTC)
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KJofclubs wrote:
No, you did not get max value. This is a low stakes donk sit n go with complete idiots. You played it exactly like a king but your opponent thinks he's Stu Ungar and doesn't know to fold. When you have a huge hand at a low buy in donkament, you BET A LOT. they call everything. hell that idiot would have called the flop with J-9 off suit and the turn as well. You probably could have gotten so much more, because OMG He flopped a queen. That is the nuts to them.


Firstly this is onbviously not a SnG genius, just looking at the stacksizes will tell you that... I agree that hero didn´t get exactly full value from the hand but he certainly didn´t play it poorly and he bet all three streets and got paid off by a very mediocre hand, considering villain had what he had and the fact that both flush and straight draws got there and the fact that hero gets villain to call a half pot bet on the end in spite of the 200 hands that beat him i would find it very very hard to be critsizing anyone here! What slevin said was pretty much spot on and he should have maybe got a little more but in all fairness he´s lucky to have got what he did and did very well to get it.... Maybe the old 30% 30% 50% bets are the way of the future or maybe your comment sucked, either way: FAIL on your behalf.
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