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PLO Strategy No.1
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#21 Posted : 2/5/2010 7:30:50 PM(UTC)
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Give bear a break, he's a busy guy and he's doing this for us. Cheers bear!
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#22 Posted : 2/5/2010 7:37:23 PM(UTC)
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@ OK people thaqnks for the support over the vid and it was done as per a request by D'Art ! I made a promise and I like to keep them.......
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#23 Posted : 2/5/2010 7:45:50 PM(UTC)
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@ All Just so u understand this guy hey25hey - First of all he says $1k roll is sufficient at PLO 0.25/0.50(in other words only 20 buy ins ????) - Simply put that is total nonsense please everyone ignore this person he has ZERO idea on this game. Second and this is also a killer and it shows he doesn't know what he is talking about........Part time players who can't put the hours in at the table need the same roll as full time ??? Absolute soo wrong ! If u are a very good player over time u will win yes ? However, u will still need to build in the variance into your win rate yes ? Soo think about this logically if ur a full time player u will play many more hands yes ? That means u will combat the variance once you have played a certain amount of hands !!! If you are a part time player you don't have this opportunity and u can as such see your roll take a hit and take u considerably longer to pull it back cos u can't play as much.........This factor alone means u need to ensure ur roll is chushioned because you don't have the same opportunitys as the regular player........By being a little cascious with ur bank roll ur giving urself a form of 'insurance' on it on a very dangerous action game !
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#24 Posted : 2/5/2010 7:49:14 PM(UTC)
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@ JvdB2007 - Sorry mate not explaining myself properly - What I mean is u want to raise various hands not just AA**.........If u do that as part of ur game u will keep ur opponents guessing ! However, in large % of cases when u see ur opponents re-popping trust me invariably it means they have AA** or KK**.........Hope this explains it a bit better
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#25 Posted : 2/5/2010 7:50:23 PM(UTC)
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@ Silverback - Email Stefan with the issue mate and he will look into it - If u get no response message me again........
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#26 Posted : 2/5/2010 7:53:59 PM(UTC)
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@ Rentmoneys - Its a dogy hamd I agree and the 7 does spoil it but in a 3 way pot u can play it with the stack involved if u have the skill and the ability to fold the folp if u don't hit...........It's marginal I agree but playable if u know what ur doing !
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#27 Posted : 2/5/2010 8:02:58 PM(UTC)
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@ Bart - Also a very good point - being able to fold the flop when ur in a iffy situation is BIG skill in this game and it can combat loose play preflop. Problem is as u have seen from some of the examples many many people can't do this...........*smil- es*
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#28 Posted : 2/5/2010 8:19:30 PM(UTC)
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Hope I'll get a response before sunday, I want to play in the sunday one. :)
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#29 Posted : 2/6/2010 1:07:01 AM(UTC)
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Good players very often slowplay nut straights if there is like a flushdraw on board to see if flush hits on turn then play it hard on the turn if flush misses ;D
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#30 Posted : 2/6/2010 1:13:25 AM(UTC)
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i do it dr
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#31 Posted : 2/6/2010 1:18:33 AM(UTC)
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bear, your cash videos are useful, but your intros are too long, it doesnt matter if its an academy award winner speech or a nobel prize winne speech, but sooner or later ppl will skip it :) (btw, i heard it all lol) and pls ban that brit, saying hes insulting is a compliment...
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#32 Posted : 2/6/2010 1:30:23 AM(UTC)
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31:23 is just horrible. It is complete bullshit, and you should not be allowed to make another vid. "He hits his two pair, it's all-in, we know that." This is the dumbest thing I have ever heard. Shoving top two pair in PLO is always a bad idea, but against a flush draw it is so vastly -EV that only a rank beginner would do it. Your advice is completely wrong. Preflop was fine, but on the flop villain lost his marbles. That is what happened.
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#33 Posted : 2/6/2010 1:36:55 AM(UTC)
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bear in the first hand i understand your point, but the reason i like raising his 11$ bet is because he is frequently betting multiway str8 draws and you're risking not to win his last 16 if a club hits the turn. your draw would be as good as his and you'd have the AA already, of course he could lead out a set, but im covering other possibilities. and you said you are hoping the other big stack gets involved, however in my opinion, thats the wrong advice/play, you'll loose so many more times, cmon you know it, just listen to ziigmund explaining how he managed to turn a 4 way pot into heads up vs patrick antonius in bobbys room to win the biggest pot registered there, and he had the nut flush draw
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#34 Posted : 2/6/2010 1:42:03 AM(UTC)
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actually you cant listen to it lol, it came in Planet poker magazine (sorry for advertising)
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#35 Posted : 2/6/2010 1:44:31 AM(UTC)
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bear if you had posted the last 2 hands in the hand reviewer everyone would have said it was completely standard
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#36 Posted : 2/6/2010 2:28:42 AM(UTC)
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hey bear. Ive been watching your films for a gd 3 years now, all the way through uni. I think this one has really turned a leaf in the way you comment on the way the fish calls u down in the firsy hand, its awesome commentry and shows how typical onlice situations can develop. Gd luck in your cash games. Im slowly building my roll to 80 buyins as u suggest, lol. JDR87 (stars)
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#37 Posted : 2/6/2010 2:29:55 AM(UTC)
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*comment on your videos. the way ....
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#38 Posted : 2/6/2010 2:41:02 AM(UTC)
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Hey25Hey.... hey....hey... shut up.
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#39 Posted : 2/6/2010 3:40:54 PM(UTC)
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in hand 1...ur oppo def puts u on aaxx sometimes qjt9 range by raising utg which is why calls off flop. he thinks scare card slow u down mayb but fsir plsy like the way u played.i think his riv call is by far the worst...who 3 barrels on tht board also interestd to know what if he reraises u here. i would def flat turn with t 8xx but poss donk lead riv so altho ur v. bet good here. just wondering if u can call a reshove so rarely a bluff
shde1
#40 Posted : 2/6/2010 4:03:48 PM(UTC)
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hand 2 like flattin aaxx here like u said disguises and u can play. i like raising allin flop tho say if 3rd guy behind u peels with wrap u in tougher spot turn. also what if 3 barrels off on turn u still call off? its so often a donk lead with set...tricky spot to call off .

hand 3 the guy clearly puts u clubs poss 2 pr/j8 str8 and is callin with kk blockers to reevaluate riv. du check fold club riv? when u lead riv riv half pot im not sure again what u do if he pot blufs u riv? u def cant call i like check calling here...yes u miss some value some of th time but it doesnt open u up to havin tricky spot if he repops.his call riv again so bad only beatin busted clubs...i would def raise u here if u half pot me riv i would put u on j8 or bustd clubs w/trips. do u call off here if he comes over th top?

hand 4 the guy is a massiv fish but sometimes u really do hav aaxx no fd when insta pot flop ur hand is def faceup....u 3/4 pot he still shoves with his hand. i dont like his pot bet prefl i think $9/$11 when repotted he can call but pot is smaller if u pot this flop to me with his hand on flop i def flat not rerai and reevaluate turn...the way hand played i think hand pretty standard for whats in the middle he shouldnt fold top 2 here and against bare aaxx no fd he is clearly a fav .

can u do more plo vids im learnin it and would like deeper on ur hand histries? maybe some hands u lose/play badly and what ur thinking was along the lines...oppos ranges/oppos tendencies
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