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Here you can discuss the following videos. Click link below to open video player in pop-up window. lg Playing 2/4$ NLH Cash GameAs mentioned here is me playing a little bit higher. Yes i know ...
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Opening QTo UTG is not profitable. Calling a 3bet with AK vs a SB-3bet is simply bad. If you dont know why i dont understand why youre playing 2/4. Squeezing with AA to 32 is bad. Obviously you dont know why. If he reraises you on the KQ9 you are putting him on a "KQ/AK kind of hand". Why? I dont think its reasonable. Checking AA on 889 is just hilarious. And should he have QJ there you dont need to be pissed, cause you let him get there. snapbetting AK on KTx is bad vs a competent player.
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Good job imo.. After having a tournament which i thought you played bad in, you really convinced me that you aint a poor player like i thought you were after the tournament video.. I really like your sight of poker of mixing it up, not playing abc like most people here on pokertube.. But as you said it is often you look like a donk when cards dont go your way and good when they do.. Good video and nice played, looking forward to your PLO video, just a shame you didnt end this video with a scream, because that was really funny in the tournament video.. Hope your PLO video ends with a scream :)
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midasmp wrote:Opening QTo UTG is not profitable. Calling a 3bet with AK vs a SB-3bet is simply bad. If you dont know why i dont understand why youre playing 2/4. Squeezing with AA to 32 is bad. Obviously you dont know why. If he reraises you on the KQ9 you are putting him on a "KQ/AK kind of hand". Why? I dont think its reasonable. Checking AA on 889 is just hilarious. And should he have QJ there you dont need to be pissed, cause you let him get there. snapbetting AK on KTx is bad vs a competent player.
LOL. You serious man. This has got to be the worst comment I've ever seen on a vid. You offer no constructive criticism, you just simply state "oh that play is bad" with an explanation of "if you dont know then u shouldnt be play such and such stakes" LOL. You sound like a woman nagging her husband because he didnt buy her the exact thing she wanted "Well if you dont know why im mad, im not telling you!!" HAHA get a life dude. I bet you felt real good bout yourself after you posted this too. "fuck yea, I sure showed that guy" hahahah Well done LG. Lots of great plays and tips. Keep up the good work. Let the haters hate!
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josmc2 wrote:midasmp wrote:Opening QTo UTG is not profitable. Calling a 3bet with AK vs a SB-3bet is simply bad. If you dont know why i dont understand why youre playing 2/4. Squeezing with AA to 32 is bad. Obviously you dont know why. If he reraises you on the KQ9 you are putting him on a "KQ/AK kind of hand". Why? I dont think its reasonable. Checking AA on 889 is just hilarious. And should he have QJ there you dont need to be pissed, cause you let him get there. snapbetting AK on KTx is bad vs a competent player.
LOL. You serious man. This has got to be the worst comment I've ever seen on a vid. You offer no constructive criticism, you just simply state "oh that play is bad" with an explanation of "if you dont know then u shouldnt be play such and such stakes" LOL. You sound like a woman nagging her husband because he didnt buy her the exact thing she wanted "Well if you dont know why im mad, im not telling you!!" HAHA get a life dude. I bet you felt real good bout yourself after you posted this too. "fuck yea, I sure showed that guy" hahahah Well done LG. Lots of great plays and tips. Keep up the good work. Let the haters hate! Thanks mate. I will not have to make a comment on that sensefree posting now that you did. ;)
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lg wrote:josmc2 wrote:midasmp wrote:Opening QTo UTG is not profitable. Calling a 3bet with AK vs a SB-3bet is simply bad. If you dont know why i dont understand why youre playing 2/4. Squeezing with AA to 32 is bad. Obviously you dont know why. If he reraises you on the KQ9 you are putting him on a "KQ/AK kind of hand". Why? I dont think its reasonable. Checking AA on 889 is just hilarious. And should he have QJ there you dont need to be pissed, cause you let him get there. snapbetting AK on KTx is bad vs a competent player.
LOL. You serious man. This has got to be the worst comment I've ever seen on a vid. You offer no constructive criticism, you just simply state "oh that play is bad" with an explanation of "if you dont know then u shouldnt be play such and such stakes" LOL. You sound like a woman nagging her husband because he didnt buy her the exact thing she wanted "Well if you dont know why im mad, im not telling you!!" HAHA get a life dude. I bet you felt real good bout yourself after you posted this too. "fuck yea, I sure showed that guy" hahahah Well done LG. Lots of great plays and tips. Keep up the good work. Let the haters hate! Thanks mate. I will not have to make a comment on that sensefree posting now that you did. ;) Bahahahaa senseless?He is absolutely right in what he said you donk and he even explained it.100% agree with midasmp. 1.You don`t have the bankroll for 2/4 2.You CALL with AK vs a sb raise.What are you gonna do if you dont hit?Yeah right you call putting him on AQ And so on and so forth...checkbehind AA kkthxbye
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whaha you all say like he should play simple ABC poker on 2/4. cmooon. it's not micro anymore.
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I agree with cunego here. You show your a competent player and you mix it up a bit.
I also get some people don't like the check behind with AA on 889. I prefer to bet there too , but thats just a matter of opinion I guess. Checking it behind made you earn more money because you let your opponent catch up.
And the AK hand , well a 4bet there is kinda standard on that SB 3bet. Then you would probably have gotten it all in preflop and won a flip vs his JJ. But just calling in position was fine.
But you can't change my mind about the TJs hand in the first vid. I don't like your play there. Under 10 blinds is always shove or fold for me. I just approach no limit hold'em tournies in a different way I guess...
Still have to watch the PLO vid. Don't know much about PLO , so i won't comment on that one.
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First off, let me start off by saying that I think that midasmp probably saw all the critisism that was generated on the tournament video, and decided to jump on the bandwagon by being the first to comment on this video. I personally didn't watch the tournament video, but to be honest, it does sound as if you played badly. I don't agree with VividAces' and others childish comments on that video, but do think you should be taking the advice from the more mature commentors, since it sounds as if tournaments are your weaker game. I think that midasmp makes himself look stupid with his comment here, because from what I can see, I think you played this cash game very well. I don't think you should be comparing stakes to level of play though. Just because you play $2/4 doesn't make you a better player than somebody who plays 10/25c. In fact, if you can't play those games because the other players don't 'appreciate' the money, then you're probably not as good a player as you think you are, since a game with fish in it is always the most profitable. Anyway:
Opening with Q-T off-suit under the gun is something you should be doing a certain percentage of the time. 6-max, your opening range UTG can be as wide as your button range in a 9-max game, providing you can play post-flop poker. You prove that you can indeed play post-flop poker in this hand, identifying the dry King high board and choosing this appropriate time to make a good C-Bet against three other players, knowing that only a King or a set can call you since there are very few draws.
Calling a 3-bet with AK against a SB raiser is fine. As you said, stacking off with AK against a pair with 100BB is minus-EV since you will lose more often than you win. A re-raise would commit you to call a shove which is never a spot you want to be in. I also think you played the hand well after the flop. There was no reason to think your AK wasn't good after the flop, so why would you fold? This was a perfect spot to float, and your bet on the turn took it down. I think you had the best hand.
AA vs QQ was standard.
And checking the AA on the 8-8-9 flop is something I would do about 10-20% of the time. In this particular spot, it was the perfect play, as you let him catch up a little and extracted maximum value. Absolutely nothing wrong with that play, I don't think, providing that you don't check the AA there 100% of the time, and mix it up with betting and checking.
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midasmp wrote:Opening QTo UTG is not profitable. You open x % of hands UTG in a 6max game. You will get 3bet some % of the time by 5 players still to act (Assuming they 3bet 4 % on average, which would be veeeery low for 2/4, you will get 3bet 20 % of the time). Everytime somebody 3bets you you should fold. So you lose 20 % of the time without seeing a flop. When you get called, you will get called a lot in position (there are 3 players who might each call you about 20 % of the time), and people will call with 22+, some SCs and many broadway-combos that are not good enough to 3bet (like JQ,KQ, some AQ,KT,AJ). vers that range you have 34%. Now an Ace or a King hits about 36% of the time, in which case you can take it down with a cbet. Lets say youre gonna take it down about 70% of the time (which is very high), so you take it down in 70%*36%=25%. Some flops will come with only low cards, in which case you will experience maaany floats and bluffraises (if some opponents are decent). If you hit a Q or a T sure, you can cbet and take it down, but you will usually be in many tough spots if somebody calls your cbet (which will obviously happen a lot when they dominate you). + If you hit a Q or a T and you get raised you might lose money in the long run if you call and try to guess right later. midasmp wrote:Calling a 3bet with AK vs a SB-3bet is simply bad. If you dont know why i dont understand why youre playing 2/4. In a standard 6-max game the BU will raise about 40-50% of the time. To counter that, the Blinds can call wide and 3bet wide. A problem with calling in the SB is that BB can squeeze a very wide range, and the SB will have to lay down hands as strong as QJ or even KQ,AJ then. So a standard SB-3bet-range vs BU will be pretty wide and include many hands that dont wanna get squeezed. As the normal BU knows that, he will 4bet bluff some and call a bit lighter. So the SB starts to shove a wider range, cause he has some FE. Also if you call AK you hit about 36% of flops, and you will see that you will have problems getting their stack then. Everytime you dont hit you are at the mercy of the SB (as he can barrel you off your float should you decide to call a cbet). Having said that AK gains its value by seeing 5 cards as often as possible, + 4betting a SB-3bet gets you a nice image and might induces shoves from Ax. (btw, if i 3bet AQ from the SB, i never fold to a 4bet). midasmp wrote:Squeezing with AA to 32 is bad. Obviously you dont know why. They have to call about 22 $ to win about 400. this makes a call with anout any SCs and every single PP profitable. Also they will rather call instead of maybe 4bet-bluffing or shoving small PPs vers you, which obviously is kind of disastrous. If you have a balanced squeezing range, you can comfortably make it about 13x and get loads of aqtion pretty often. midasmp wrote:If he reraises you on the KQ9 you are putting him on a "KQ/AK kind of hand". Why? I dont think its reasonable. AK he should be 3betting (at least some of the time), KQ he might as well. very likely are some NFDs, some JT, some pair+FD. And obviously some bluffs with outs like AT,AJ,8T. I think im wasting my time, right? Just rip it apart.
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midasmp - totally agreed with almost all you've said. I don't think you're wasting your time, just take it like mind training /exercise :) i like your post a lot, I've even registred acc here just to say this ;) so big up
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lol LG you have your work cut out arguing against Midasmp's post here. Really concise and thought out post.
As for the video, I nearly commented on this yesterday, started, then got distracted. Completely agree with regards to opening QT utg, I don't understand why you are doing that, are you doing it as a steal? Or are you wanting to get action OOP most of the time? It really feels like your just raising marginal hands there to just get involved. Also, before the flop is dealt you say 'I am gonna cbet this'... what? How can you do that. You have no idea what the flop will bring, you have to consider the flop texture and whether or not a Cbet is just gonna get raised all the time and you ultimately spew money.
As for flatting AK, you definitely seem to assign the 3bettor in the SB a far too defined range. As Midasmp said, your range on the button is so so wide and therefore, his 3betting range is going to be very wide. AK is the very top of both of you ranges here, and just flatting the 3bet with the justification of 'I am in position' seems silly, because you are going to get blown off the hand almost all the time when you don't hit.
You are obviously confident in your play, and that is good, and the video was actually very watchable. However you do have to be open to people criticism. There are some solid thinking posters on this site, and your game is far from watertight so you should definitely take the advice on board rather than go on a 10 minute monologue about how you are 'disgusted' with people not loving your play.
But good video, and a nice session.
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I disagree with a few points here. Opening with QT off isn't something I would be doing 100% of the time, that's for sure. But I certainly don't think that it's something that any player SHOULDN'T be doing at all. You have to balance your UTG raises in order to stop opponents from being able to polarize your range. I will be raising UTG with 5-7 offsuit on occasion when playing 6-handed. I know that statistically this is minus EV, but it's moves like this that build up the meta-game. I certianly wouldn't raise with Q-T with the intention of betting ANY flop whatsoever... but a dry K high flop would almost definately get a C-bet. Also, in regards to 'wanting to get action OOP', well... of course I want to have position when I play a pot... but I certainly feel that I personally am a good enough player to play an occasional marginal hand OOP. It's definately not something I'm going to be avoiding like the plague, anyway. I think that if you feel confident enough to be playing Q-T under the gun, then you should definately be doing it on the odd occasion.
And flatting with AK is fine. If you get the money in pre-flop against any pair, you are a dog to win the pot. It's negative EV, and something that can be avoided. I'm not saying never four-bet with AK. I'm saying it's not essential that you do so. But by calling, you're playing an already nice pot in position with a now cleverly disguised monster. If I three bet AQ here to 13BB... I'm folding to a four-bet preflop. However, if the button calls and I flop an Ace... I'm losing a lot of money. Once again, I'm not saying that four betting is incorrect. However, I'm definately saying that calling with AK and position is also not incorrect. Especially if you have the ability to win the pot without hitting, which IG certainly does.
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JayJSmith wrote:If you get the money in pre-flop against any pair, you are a dog to win the pot. It's negative EV, and something that can be avoided.
Think again.
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JayJSmith wrote: You have to balance your UTG raises in order to stop opponents from being able to polarize your range. I will be raising UTG with 5-7 offsuit on occasion when playing 6-handed.
That has nothing to do with playing QTo. Cant you do a little better than to generalize the problem? Oh, and obviously opponents would have a hard time polarizing your range, cause only you can do that to yourself
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Are you guys retarded or something?This guy isnt a grinder or a regular player at 2/4 at all.He buys in for his last 388$ on his account, plays one table for 10min with about 5 hands where he is on a heater and wants us to comment his game?
To OP: Make a real video with 4-6 tables 2/4 for 60min.Then we will see what your game is about donk.
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ThatstheTonyG wrote:Are you guys retarded or something?This guy isnt a grinder or a regular player at 2/4 at all.He buys in for his last 388$ on his account, plays one table for 10min with about 5 hands where he is on a heater and wants us to comment his game?
To OP: Make a real video with 4-6 tables 2/4 for 60min.Then we will see what your game is about donk. Have an opinion but dont be a dick yo. I do rate your name however. Very highly
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ThatstheTonyG wrote:Are you guys retarded or something?This guy isnt a grinder or a regular player at 2/4 at all.He buys in for his last 388$ on his account, plays one table for 10min with about 5 hands where he is on a heater and wants us to comment his game? nobody said that he is grinder on 2/4 :D I haven't seen that 388$, just tought that he had at least few buyins on 400:) during his 'session' he had like 60-70vpip:) it's clear that he cant survive these stakes in any kind of longer run (i think few hundreds hands would be enough).
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midasmp wrote:JayJSmith wrote: You have to balance your UTG raises in order to stop opponents from being able to polarize your range. I will be raising UTG with 5-7 offsuit on occasion when playing 6-handed.
That has nothing to do with playing QTo. Cant you do a little better than to generalize the problem? Oh, and obviously opponents would have a hard time polarizing your range, cause only you can do that to yourself Badly worded. You know what I meant.
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