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Full Tilt MNP series 4 winner Cunego vs Annette Obrestad HU
lepparaise
#41 Posted : 9/13/2010 9:18:26 PM(UTC)
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"Only hands that are calling or shuvn at that point will be those that are ahead of him at that moment in time ! He doesn't have enough drawing outs to make such an aggresive move on that flop." Dabear

Is this true bear? You are a lier! As I said earlier imo 80 percent of the cases he would get a call from the straight. At that moment in time bear, cunego is a 55 percent favourit against that straight.


" I don't believe he shud risk it all on a 'coin flip' and before anyone else says 55% again he didn't know he was 55% ! " Dabear

I definatly think you should take a flip shortstacked hu against a pro like anette. You have to take them or else she would take all the pots not going to showdown. And yes he knew he was a 55% against the straight. So then we are back to trying to calculate how many times she have the over set in that situasion. Like I tryed to in one of the earliest pots. What is your opinion on about the percentages? And please bear, dont fall back in the situation where you are claiming things without explaining why again... And bear cunego have never claimed that he could be behind in this situation (stop lying!!!). He is saying that he will be in front in a (for him) sufficent amount of times.

I think your answer is redicolous in the last post (no new information is presented, yust the same old thinking pattern with the same perspective). And you are not replying on any of the situations im presenting for you if you play the hand slow.


"I look forward to you sucking me out yet again when you shuv all in vs my top pair decent kicker with your fabulous Q6 flush draw on the FLOP as a 37% dog !" Dabear

You know bear... He can justify his all in if you fold in 30 percent of the cases. If he also have put money in the pot, maybe he is playing good not bad as you try to give impression of? Anyways, we are not discussing that situation.

Awesome video!
lepparaise
#42 Posted : 9/13/2010 9:30:27 PM(UTC)
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"The more I look at it the more i see a very aggresive move that backfires. I have seen Cunego make this play time and time again especially on the flop because he is an agreesive player. He does this when he is also behind in 70/30 and 60/40 situations and i have numerous hands to verify this. So Cunego this is my opinion it is not having a go and it is not being rude. I genuinely do not believe you knew where you were 100% on that hand. I have many many examples of the same sort of play in cash games by you. You cannot deny it...........I look forward to you sucking me out yet again when you shuv all in vs my top pair decent kicker with your fabulous Q6 flush draw on the FLOP as a 37% dog !"

Claiming cunego did not see the backdoor is rude! Espesially if he did! Ask him and trust his answer instead! I have seen alot of cunegoes cg and yes he probably playes like that and that is probably one of the reasons why his stats is exelent. Pokertableratings.com! how is dabears stats? I have to admit... Im acting stupid right now, does not have anything to do with the situations!
Awesome video!
Cunego_D_NewAcc
#43 Posted : 9/13/2010 9:52:07 PM(UTC)
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my always backing lepparaiseLOL
btw, i did not know that i were 55% before we went in :) who would know that :)
dabeear
#44 Posted : 9/14/2010 1:48:10 AM(UTC)
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lol @ Leppa using a site that tracks from 2009 that is soo inaccurate and doesn't have even 25% of my data.................*chuckles*


Just for your info I'm down just over $5k in the Omaha ! Use a site that has the correct data mate is the first thing I'd say and ensure it goes back more than 1 year !

Second, is lets get a Pro to make a comment uh and assess the hand. It is a lot more complicated than saying o thrs a set + some redraws shuuv.......



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lepparaise
#45 Posted : 9/15/2010 11:40:18 PM(UTC)
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ok, did you or did you not understand that Im trying to go down to your level to show you how you are in the last post?

wich site should I use? PTR have most of my own sessions, so i thought it was good;)

Yes, lets get a pro to see the hand in retrospect. I totaly agree with you on; that it is a lot more complicated then saying thers a set + some redraws shuuv... Thats why im trying to discuss as much as possible diffrent senarioes percentvice. But you dont want to reply on this.

I think the hand is very interesting and I showed it to a couple of my friends last weekend. one of them a pokerpro (most sucsessfull in limit holdem and plo) wich says cunego played the hand optimal. Another one, a good chessplayer who also agreed in what was said. But me telling you this will not make you understand why these people have the opinions they have. If we should learn to think from each other we have to discuss an calculate how likely the diffrent senaryoes are.

Would be cool to hear what annette her self would say...



Awesome video!
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