Poker Videos  Free Poker Videos  Forum  Poker TV Shows  Poker Hand Replayer  Poker Channels  My admin  Shop

Poker Forum

Welcome to the Poker Forum
If you want to take part in any of the tournaments or promotions discussed in the forum use these links when download a new site.

888Poker        William Hill       

Notification

Icon
Error
  Active Discussions
Latest Posts
Daniel Negreanu's Weekly Rant - May 23, 2012
(Interviews & Video blogs)
Today at 9:12:45 PM(UTC) by AussiePete Go to last post
Buzz Poker €500 GTD Speed Tourny, 22nd May,
(Buzz Poker)
Today at 8:50:05 PM(UTC) by Hunch Go to last post
Buzz Poker tournament schedule.
(Buzz Poker)
Today at 7:56:35 PM(UTC) by zedmaster… Go to last post
10 Man SNG
(SNG videos)
Today at 6:14:02 PM(UTC) by kompressa… Go to last post
Buzz Poker €500 GTD Speed Tourny, 21st May
(Buzz Poker)
Today at 5:43:24 PM(UTC) by connectorz Go to last post
Sharks vs tuna's
(Live Poker)
Today at 4:24:13 PM(UTC) by DoopyDoop Go to last post
The Big 11$ pretty deep run HH Review
(MTT videos)
Today at 3:55:02 PM(UTC) by Only1obie1 Go to last post

facing utg+1 3-bet w/ AKo
Options
Previous Topic Next Topic
DonaldRB
#1 Posted : 11/28/2011 12:31:24 AM(UTC)
Rank: Advanced Member

Groups: Registered
Posts: 1 554

Thanks: 6 times
Was thanked: 13 time(s) in 12 post(s)
Here you can discuss the following hand.
Click link below to open hand replayer in pop-up window.

facing utg+1 3-bet w/ AKo
Back to top
DanShot
#2 Posted : 11/28/2011 1:03:05 AM(UTC)
Rank: Advanced Member

Groups: Registered
Posts: 179

Was thanked: 1 time(s) in 1 post(s)
You don't want to see a flop in which case , In a vacuum I like a shove your hand is just too strong to fold you have to apply the pressure.

Folding is defo worst move for you , I wonder if he is raise getting it in with 88-1010 and maybe AQ is there fir him too
Back to top
PapaBeear
#3 Posted : 11/28/2011 2:05:35 AM(UTC)
Rank: Advanced Member

Groups: Registered
Posts: 216

Thanks: 31 times
Was thanked: 15 time(s) in 15 post(s)
I just get it in here...villains a losing player so the only way I ever consider folding here is if its a clickback...because they invariably do have the AA/KK :p...i like a 4b rather than a straight shove to make your hand look mighty strong and who knows, he may even be able to fold TT :p
Back to top
chillyman2
#9 Posted : 11/28/2011 12:21:35 PM(UTC)
Rank: Advanced Member

Groups: Registered
Posts: 150

Thanks: 12 times
ShipBigGrin
Back to top
TL900
#10 Posted : 11/28/2011 2:14:40 PM(UTC)
Rank: Advanced Member

Groups: Registered
Posts: 386

Thanks: 59 times
Was thanked: 18 time(s) in 15 post(s)
fold imo.
I <3 Dabeear
Back to top
TL900
#4 Posted : 11/28/2011 3:17:59 PM(UTC)
Rank: Advanced Member

Groups: Registered
Posts: 386

Thanks: 59 times
Was thanked: 18 time(s) in 15 post(s)
Originally Posted by: PapaBeear Go to Quoted Post
villains a losing player


this should make u want to get it in even less... i literally think QQ is the very bottom of his range here, i don't even think he shows up with AK very often
I <3 Dabeear
Back to top
PapaBeear
#5 Posted : 11/28/2011 5:15:37 PM(UTC)
Rank: Advanced Member

Groups: Registered
Posts: 216

Thanks: 31 times
Was thanked: 15 time(s) in 15 post(s)
Originally Posted by: TL900 Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: PapaBeear Go to Quoted Post
villains a losing player


this should make u want to get it in even less... i literally think QQ is the very bottom of his range here, i don't even think he shows up with AK very often


I see them do this with AQ/AJ all the time...spend less time fixing your internet bro :p
Back to top
TL900
#8 Posted : 11/28/2011 5:27:37 PM(UTC)
Rank: Advanced Member

Groups: Registered
Posts: 386

Thanks: 59 times
Was thanked: 18 time(s) in 15 post(s)
Originally Posted by: PapaBeear Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: TL900 Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: PapaBeear Go to Quoted Post
villains a losing player


this should make u want to get it in even less... i literally think QQ is the very bottom of his range here, i don't even think he shows up with AK very often


I see them do this with AQ/AJ all the time


hmm... Glare
I <3 Dabeear
Back to top
BixBax
#6 Posted : 11/28/2011 6:17:43 PM(UTC)
Rank: Advanced Member

Groups: Registered
Posts: 513

Thanks: 5 times
Was thanked: 46 time(s) in 43 post(s)
Originally Posted by: PapaBeear Go to Quoted Post
I see them do this with AQ/AJ all the time...spend less time fixing your internet bro :p


You do??? Must be some sort of anomaly, because I rarely see anyone 3-bet more than a 3% range in spots like that.
Back to top
DonaldRB
#11 Posted : 11/28/2011 6:37:03 PM(UTC)
Rank: Advanced Member

Groups: Registered
Posts: 1 554

Thanks: 6 times
Was thanked: 13 time(s) in 12 post(s)
I agree QQ is likely to be the bottom of his range here, just the sizing of the bet and his stack size make this look sick strong. It felt wrong to me to ship it with no info at all and a very playable stack, so opted to fold.
Back to top
PapaBeear
#7 Posted : 11/28/2011 6:53:38 PM(UTC)
Rank: Advanced Member

Groups: Registered
Posts: 216

Thanks: 31 times
Was thanked: 15 time(s) in 15 post(s)
Originally Posted by: BixBax Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: PapaBeear Go to Quoted Post
I see them do this with AQ/AJ all the time...spend less time fixing your internet bro :p


You do??? Must be some sort of anomaly, because I rarely see anyone 3-bet more than a 3% range in spots like that.


Sarcasm bud
Back to top
bryce87
#12 Posted : 11/29/2011 3:45:54 AM(UTC)
Rank: Advanced Member

Groups: Registered
Posts: 789

Thanks: 5 times
Was thanked: 12 time(s) in 12 post(s)
It is wrong to ask for an opinion on this type of hand without mentioning relevant prior history, e.g frequency you have been opening & villain has been 3betting etc. If I have been opening frequently, and villain has been anything but a rock, then I fistpump get this in.
Bear is gospel
Back to top
BixBax
#13 Posted : 11/29/2011 12:17:29 PM(UTC)
Rank: Advanced Member

Groups: Registered
Posts: 513

Thanks: 5 times
Was thanked: 46 time(s) in 43 post(s)
Originally Posted by: bryce87 Go to Quoted Post
It is wrong to ask for an opinion on this type of hand without mentioning relevant prior history, e.g frequency you have been opening & villain has been 3betting etc. If I have been opening frequently, and villain has been anything but a rock, then I fistpump get this in.


From the hand description:

DonaldRB wrote:
Description: $3 rebuy 40k Gtd. First hand at a new table so no info at all.


He can't give any information that he doesn't have. The only information we can rely on is that even bad players don't like to re-raise with anything but a top top hand when they are UTG+1. I'd say that about 90% of all people here would either fold or call anything worse than JJ or AK.

Let's say that THIS particular guy 3-bet/calls a bit wider than that, then it would be decently +EV to shove, and thus it would be a mistake to fold, which is 0EV. However the mistake we make by folding will be relatively small, since in general it will only be +EV by a few big blinds to shove, so since this is a tournament, I would go with the low variance play, which is to fold.
Back to top
bryce87
#14 Posted : 11/29/2011 7:22:17 PM(UTC)
Rank: Advanced Member

Groups: Registered
Posts: 789

Thanks: 5 times
Was thanked: 12 time(s) in 12 post(s)
sorry i missed that, where exactly do you find the hand description? i still cannot see it :p i fold too
Bear is gospel
Back to top
r0nny72
#15 Posted : 11/29/2011 7:59:54 PM(UTC)
Rank: Advanced Member

Groups: Registered
Posts: 1 298

Thanks: 9 times
Was thanked: 22 time(s) in 21 post(s)
Originally Posted by: bryce87 Go to Quoted Post
sorry i missed that, where exactly do you find the hand description? i still cannot see it :p i fold too


click on "Hands" in the Navigation, you´re able to see the hands + description then, it´s a bug from pokertube.
Back to top
Users browsing this topic
Guest
Forum Jump  
You cannot post new topics in this forum.
You cannot reply to topics in this forum.
You cannot delete your posts in this forum.
You cannot edit your posts in this forum.
You cannot create polls in this forum.
You cannot vote in polls in this forum.

Powered by YAF | YAF © 2003-2011, Yet Another Forum.NET
This page was generated in 0,528 seconds.

Top 10 Poker Rooms
1.Winner
$2000 Bonus
2.888Poker
$8 FREE
3.Betathome
€1000 Bonus
4.William Hill
$2000 Bonus
5.Sky Poker
£5 FREE
6.Titan Poker
$2000 Bonus
7.PaddyPower
$2000 Bonus
8.Cardbet
€500 Bonus
9.PokerStars
$600 Bonus
10.Everest
$1000 Bonus