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#1 Posted : 12/23/2011 3:09:15 PM(UTC)
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#2 Posted : 12/23/2011 3:20:53 PM(UTC)
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#4 Posted : 12/23/2011 3:25:11 PM(UTC)
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#5 Posted : 12/23/2011 3:28:01 PM(UTC)
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Bet bigger on the flop. Raise bigger on the flop.

As played I don't care if you check or bet the turn, but at the river I call. I think he would get it in on the flop with a set, so he is mostly representing 45s here.
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Bet bigger on the flop. Raise bigger on the flop.

As played I don't care if you check or bet the turn, but at the river I call. I think he would get it in on the flop with a set, so he is mostly representing 45s here.



mmmh i saw no danger at all and also tryd to induce a raise which succeeded in...i bet smaller on purpose..
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yuck

i probably call it off tho
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#7 Posted : 12/23/2011 10:30:17 PM(UTC)
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I'm never folding this, I don't even think it's close tbh. As an aside I like the cbet size but would probably make the 3bet slightly larger, like 8200ish, just because I don't expect people at this level to minraise/fold too often, so I want to get more chips before a scare card hits. Personally I'm just gonna go ahead and bet/call turn and bet river. I have no idea how he plays, and it is only a 25c tourney, but I'd still expect him to fold 43/32 pre from the sb and always expect him to get sets in OTF, cos he'd just hate to flat and let an A/5/6 peel off and have no idea how to play the turn with the stacks awkward as they are. So I'm assuming I still have the virtual nuts and just wanna try to get stacks in by the river. He can check/raise/call the flop with any overpair, any 4x, any 5x, even hands like A10 or whatever (He's never really gonna put you on a range - he'll just think 2 overs and gutshot = lots of outs). So on the river he can be value jamming all of his 5x hands. I wouldn't even be surprised if he thinks you must have a pocket pair and be jamming Ax for value. He might even have like 66 and think "well it kinda sucks if I check and he bets, I'll have no idea what to do. I'll just bet and hope he can't call". I mean there may be ICM considerations cos the other 2 stacks have a lot less than you but I think even against a non-spazzy player I call here, because I think it's 5x much more than a boat. IMO A3 is about the only hand he might turn up with (I mean I guess 43s/32s too but less likely). Probably should have established this earlier but what's your read on him? You must have played a fair few hands with him at this point. Was he prone to spewing?
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#8 Posted : 12/23/2011 11:06:54 PM(UTC)
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Joobs wrote:
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I wouldn't even be surprised if he thinks you must have a pocket pair and be jamming Ax for value.[...] but I think even against a non-spazzy player I call here, because I think it's 5x much more than a boat. IMO A3 is about the only hand he might turn up with[that has you beat, obv.]

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#9 Posted : 12/24/2011 10:53:55 AM(UTC)
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#10 Posted : 1/10/2012 10:15:15 PM(UTC)
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I'm never folding this shove OTR at this buy-in level.
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