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I would raise with a king pre-flop, I would bet less than POT on the huge flop, I´d have to assume my opponent didn´t catch much of it and I wouldn´t want to chase him away, on the turn I´d probably do exactly the same and on the river I now know what I suspected on the turn: I am beat, ergo I must fold.

Wait... DNTony is back???? Wonderful news.

As for the hand.

1. I raise pre.
2. I bet bigger on the turn

Ok now that the little points are out the way, as played, this is a very played dependant decision. Without stats, or any history on the guy (although I assume there is none seeing as we are very early in the sng), this is a pretty tough call, because he shouldn't really be doing this with much that you are beating. We are to assume that he wont do this with just one pair, but again, if you have played with this guy before and know he is a total spaz, maybe he can do this with Ax if he isnt aggro enough to just raise your complete pre.

So if we assume he should be having 2pair + to make this move we have to think about what we can beat.

Seeing as he can have pretty much any two cards pre, hands we feasibly beat are K3/85/83. Hands that beat us that he would realistically check pre with are A8/A5/A3/K8/55/33/42. One would assume that AA/KK/88/AK and in fact maybe A8 would almost always raise pre.

Couple this with the fact that he isn't really meant to be bluffing here that often. His bluffing range would almost always consist of missed draws given the action, and the only realistic hand he could take this line with and be bluffing is like 64, or maybe some range gutshot draw that picked up a spade flushdraw.

So yeah, on the balance of probabilities we aren't doing too hot against his range, and we are still deep enough to play pots with him if we fold, whereas if we call and are wrong, we give him a 5/1 chip lead which is always going to be rough to overturn.

I think this highlights the merits of raising preflop just because it always helps to define someones range right from the outset, rather than letting them see a flop with any two cards that we will struggle to define postflop.

PS. HI DNTONY

So what do you do when you don't have any stats? It's a pretty important question, because almost every session starts out with you playing against someone you have no stats on, but you have to do something none the less when it's your turn to act. So if you think advice is impossible, does that then mean that he can do whatever he likes to do, and either option is fine?

No, it just means that we don't know enough about the situation to give sound advice. Just look at how often connie used words like "assume" and "if", trying to cover all the possibilities.

Personally I would call. Villain tried to rep the Ace on the turn which he would never do with a set.
So no set, no Ace (would have raised pre), only K8 beats us. Call. Don't shove.

Drugs!!

I´m only temporarily back, I do look at some posts when I get time but don´t comment so much anymore, there seems no need with so many experts here now=) Besides I´ll only end up calling people twats because I´m a negative bastard! How´s things going for you Connectorz? Winning?? I´ve almost given up on online poker, don´t have much time and prefer to play live without fckin Russians!!

You actually have no clue about this game.

Anyone notice that his raise size on the turn and river are both pot sized? I think that in the villain's eyes he is value betting. You just got to figure out if he is value betting something you can beat! Pot betters do weird stuff...