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Is this an okay fold?
Wh1skybar
#1 Posted : 1/5/2012 6:29:17 PM(UTC)
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#2 Posted : 1/5/2012 7:04:32 PM(UTC)
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If ur asking that kind of a question u know why ur playing for $1.
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Hi there Wh1skybar. In answer to your question, yes this is a correct fold. You have played the hand fine. When the 4 card straight hits the turn, u have got to put a decent amount of combos with a 9 involved into his calling range on the flop, so pot controlling with the check is definitely sensible. By the time the river hits, there is a 4 card straight, a backdoor flush hits as well as trips and full house possibilities. When he bets basically the size of the pot u can polarize his range usually into a top hand or a complete bluff. All of the real hands u beat will check the river so u can count out worse 2 pairs. Also for him to be bluffing here he really needs to have nout all and he check called the flop. The only hand u can therefore beat here is an 8x hand that wasnt 8 Q or 8 9 that he turned into a bluff.
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Thankyou very much mattp4 I knew I had to fold. I knew there were reasons why I folded but I couldnt have articulated it quite the way you just have. I think I summed it up thusly .... "Yuk"

The guy had been griefing me all match "Your a terrible player" ... "Fish" etc etc .. I always find that amusing when were both playing at $1.50 level. So I showed him my aces after the fold. If he had been bluffing he'd have shown for certain ... and he didnt mention the hand at all either.

Very happy :)
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#3 Posted : 1/6/2012 12:05:47 AM(UTC)
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If ur asking that kind of a question u know why ur playing for $1.


Unhelpful , were all here to learn ! .
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#4 Posted : 1/6/2012 4:09:15 PM(UTC)
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If ur asking that kind of a question u know why ur playing for $1.


Unhelpful , were all here to learn ! .


Come on, how many braincells have you left? You only beat two pair turned into a bluff and your chances are pretty slim someone does that at a $1 buy-in. So without reads it's a fist pump fold.
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Its HU and it all depends on ur read on your opponent tbh and what you know he is capable of. My opinion is the flop bet looks fine, the check on the turn also looks fine for pot control as you cud indeed be facing 2 pair or a straight. His bet on the river well thats a tuffy tbh as there is arguements to call here with a paired board. Like I said it goes down to what read you have on ur opponent. This is not an auto fold senario as like I said it's HU and ranges and bluffs are so much more varied and likely.

I don't hate the fold but i would not slate you for a call either as think about it, u look like you bottled the hand on the turn and a bet out by him would be feesible if he has a small piece of the board. Crazy as it sounds but you get a lot of people at this level making crazy bluffs so in the end it goes down to what info you have on this guy. If he is tight and doesn't bluff much its an easy fold. If he chases a lot, you've caught him bluffn before, and his game is pretty loose I would call him off.


Hope this helps mate.

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#11 Posted : 1/10/2012 2:37:49 AM(UTC)
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Its HU and it all depends on ur read on your opponent tbh and what you know he is capable of. My opinion is the flop bet looks fine, the check on the turn also looks fine for pot control as you cud indeed be facing 2 pair or a straight. His bet on the river well thats a tuffy tbh as there is arguements to call here with a paired board. Like I said it goes down to what read you have on ur opponent. This is not an auto fold senario as like I said it's HU and ranges and bluffs are so much more varied and likely.

I don't hate the fold but i would not slate you for a call either as think about it, u look like you bottled the hand on the turn and a bet out by him would be feesible if he has a small piece of the board. Crazy as it sounds but you get a lot of people at this level making crazy bluffs so in the end it goes down to what info you have on this guy. If he is tight and doesn't bluff much its an easy fold. If he chases a lot, you've caught him bluffn before, and his game is pretty loose I would call him off.


Hope this helps mate.

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'Bear'



So what bear is saying here...

Is nothing really.

Fold is fine, hes not betting a hand you beat for value like this, and all his draws get there by the river. So unless he is turning like KT/KJ etc into a bluff (which hes most likely not) this is a pretty easy fold.
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#9 Posted : 1/10/2012 8:36:16 AM(UTC)
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Is this an okay fold?



Its HU and it all depends on ur read on your opponent tbh and what you know he is capable of. My opinion is the flop bet looks fine, the check on the turn also looks fine for pot control as you cud indeed be facing 2 pair or a straight. His bet on the river well thats a tuffy tbh as there is arguements to call here with a paired board. Like I said it goes down to what read you have on ur opponent. This is not an auto fold senario as like I said it's HU and ranges and bluffs are so much more varied and likely.

I don't hate the fold but i would not slate you for a call either as think about it, u look like you bottled the hand on the turn and a bet out by him would be feesible if he has a small piece of the board. Crazy as it sounds but you get a lot of people at this level making crazy bluffs so in the end it goes down to what info you have on this guy. If he is tight and doesn't bluff much its an easy fold. If he chases a lot, you've caught him bluffn before, and his game is pretty loose I would call him off.


Hope this helps mate.

Regards

'Bear'



It takes bear two entire paragraphs to ultimately give no opinion on the hand. Flapper
I'm a frog man :)
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#10 Posted : 1/10/2012 10:00:51 AM(UTC)
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Is this an okay fold?



Its HU and it all depends on ur read on your opponent tbh and what you know he is capable of. My opinion is the flop bet looks fine, the check on the turn also looks fine for pot control as you cud indeed be facing 2 pair or a straight. His bet on the river well thats a tuffy tbh as there is arguements to call here with a paired board. Like I said it goes down to what read you have on ur opponent. This is not an auto fold senario as like I said it's HU and ranges and bluffs are so much more varied and likely.

I don't hate the fold but i would not slate you for a call either as think about it, u look like you bottled the hand on the turn and a bet out by him would be feesible if he has a small piece of the board. Crazy as it sounds but you get a lot of people at this level making crazy bluffs so in the end it goes down to what info you have on this guy. If he is tight and doesn't bluff much its an easy fold. If he chases a lot, you've caught him bluffn before, and his game is pretty loose I would call him off.


Hope this helps mate.

Regards

'Bear'



It takes bear two entire paragraphs to ultimately give no opinion on the hand. Flapper

i think he is trying to be like connectorz but not really getting there.. gotta give the guy credit for trying tho.. he got a big heart!
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Carefull guys or bear will take you outside and slap you with a wet kipper
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Is this an okay fold?



Its HU and it all depends on ur read on your opponent tbh and what you know he is capable of. My opinion is the flop bet looks fine, the check on the turn also looks fine for pot control as you cud indeed be facing 2 pair or a straight. His bet on the river well thats a tuffy tbh as there is arguements to call here with a paired board. Like I said it goes down to what read you have on ur opponent. This is not an auto fold senario as like I said it's HU and ranges and bluffs are so much more varied and likely.

I don't hate the fold but i would not slate you for a call either as think about it, u look like you bottled the hand on the turn and a bet out by him would be feesible if he has a small piece of the board. Crazy as it sounds but you get a lot of people at this level making crazy bluffs so in the end it goes down to what info you have on this guy. If he is tight and doesn't bluff much its an easy fold. If he chases a lot, you've caught him bluffn before, and his game is pretty loose I would call him off.


Hope this helps mate.

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'Bear'



So what bear is saying here...

Is nothing really.

Fold is fine, hes not betting a hand you beat for value like this, and all his draws get there by the river. So unless he is turning like KT/KJ etc into a bluff (which hes most likely not) this is a pretty easy fold.


+1 loooool
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#13 Posted : 1/10/2012 12:57:50 PM(UTC)
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Is this an okay fold?



Its HU and it all depends on ur read on your opponent tbh and what you know he is capable of. My opinion is the flop bet looks fine, the check on the turn also looks fine for pot control as you cud indeed be facing 2 pair or a straight. His bet on the river well thats a tuffy tbh as there is arguements to call here with a paired board. Like I said it goes down to what read you have on ur opponent. This is not an auto fold senario as like I said it's HU and ranges and bluffs are so much more varied and likely.

I don't hate the fold but i would not slate you for a call either as think about it, u look like you bottled the hand on the turn and a bet out by him would be feesible if he has a small piece of the board. Crazy as it sounds but you get a lot of people at this level making crazy bluffs so in the end it goes down to what info you have on this guy. If he is tight and doesn't bluff much its an easy fold. If he chases a lot, you've caught him bluffn before, and his game is pretty loose I would call him off.


Hope this helps mate.

Regards

'Bear'



So what bear is saying here...

Is nothing really.

Fold is fine, hes not betting a hand you beat for value like this, and all his draws get there by the river. So unless he is turning like KT/KJ etc into a bluff (which hes most likely not) this is a pretty easy fold.


+1 loooool

you knocked me out of a tournament on ps not a long time ago.. thought your name looked familiar..
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