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wow villain goes from missing draws to value betting. 
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Whats your thought on 3betting?
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Originally Posted by: Jon_and_Liz Whats your thought on 3betting? why are you asking this? you never 3-bet oop to take initiative?
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I think its not a very good hand to 3bet tbh... Seems likely it will play bad vs an open/call range and im just asking heroes opinion
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Originally Posted by: Jon_and_Liz I think its not a very good hand to 3bet tbh yeh cunego is a fekn tuna. his 3-betting range should be AK,QQ+.
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hmmm myb he can just be more polarised than more nitty with 3bets?
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Originally Posted by: Jon_and_Liz Whats your thought on 3betting? are you the villain? :) not alot tbh, i think each play is fine. if i had to choose maybe: folding = 3betting < calling, and tilt made me take the aggressive line..
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Originally Posted by: Jon_and_Liz hmmm myb he can just be more polarised than more nitty with 3bets? BRILLIANT! AK,QQ+ for value and 94o,72o,32o for absolute bluffs.
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Originally Posted by: Cunego__D Originally Posted by: Jon_and_Liz Whats your thought on 3betting? are you the villain? :) not alot tbh, i think each play is fine. if i had to choose maybe: folding = 3betting < calling, and tilt made me take the aggressive line.. Nah im not villian. Imo calling > 3betting > folding. Your hand is to strong to seriouslyt consider folding imo. 3 Betting just puts you in alot of bad spots. Btw im saying this if where readless or playing vs a standard villian. Obv can change depending on tendancies. @ZigZag I didnt say 3bet a terrible range... 3betting a polarised range is pretty much the norm readless for most regs (Heads up anyway i dont rly play 6max). But in general seems like ur just trying to make smarmy replies and put words (ranges) into my mouth. Just was wondering heros thoughts on the hands...
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Like two lil kids seeing who can pee farther. :D
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I like the 3-bet and I think it's better than calling in general.
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Originally Posted by: Jon_and_Liz Originally Posted by: Cunego__D Originally Posted by: Jon_and_Liz Whats your thought on 3betting? are you the villain? :) not alot tbh, i think each play is fine. if i had to choose maybe: folding = 3betting < calling, and tilt made me take the aggressive line.. Nah im not villian. Imo calling > 3betting > folding. Your hand is to strong to seriouslyt consider folding imo. 3 Betting just puts you in alot of bad spots. Btw im saying this if where readless or playing vs a standard villian. Obv can change depending on tendancies. @ZigZag I didnt say 3bet a terrible range... 3betting a polarised range is pretty much the norm readless for most regs (Heads up anyway i dont rly play 6max). But in general seems like ur just trying to make smarmy replies and put words (ranges) into my mouth. Just was wondering heros thoughts on the hands... ye, calling might be better then what i value it to be.. might just be me that plays hands with iniative better then without and oop.. but tilt was def in the picture.. if things aint going my way i want to play bigger pots.. bigbig leak
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i think my play here in general is like calling with hands like kq, qj, kj, at, aj, pairs up to tt, 3betting aq+, jj+ and hands i thin is too bad of calling like qt, 67 and stuff... i just didnt thought it was a supercool hand to flat oop, but you should 3bet the best hands you fold in general so i might have thought qts was one of these this time
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U r from a HU background also right? Is this your same 3bet range for HU? I agree 3betting your best hands and the better hands u wld fold (That where i was going when i said a polarised 3bet range). But I just think QT is to crushed in general vs standard villian. Also (HU) im almost always 3betting KQ, AJ, TT and 99 vs anyone. I think hands like 67, 4-6s etc r much better to 3bet than QT tho.
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Also initiative is gd but rmbr you have to play the hand oop against a range that probably dominates u quite often :(
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Originally Posted by: Jon_and_Liz Also initiative is gd but rmbr you have to play the hand oop against a range that probably dominates u quite often :( [ ] dominated quite often [x] slightly behind against a standard calling range
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Originally Posted by: zigzag11 Originally Posted by: Jon_and_Liz Also initiative is gd but rmbr you have to play the hand oop against a range that probably dominates u quite often :( [ ] dominated quite often [x] slightly behind against a standard calling range The problem is when we hit the flop our opponent is also likely to have hit the flop (slightly better as u say). I would be interested in hearing your arguements to 3bet this hand as well zigzag?
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Originally Posted by: Jon_and_Liz Originally Posted by: zigzag11 Originally Posted by: Jon_and_Liz Also initiative is gd but rmbr you have to play the hand oop against a range that probably dominates u quite often :( [ ] dominated quite often [x] slightly behind against a standard calling range The problem is when we hit the flop our opponent is also likely to have hit the flop (slightly better as u say).
It doesn't mean that if hero hits the flop villain is likely to have hit the flop also, what kind of logic is that? Villains range wins more often in general if taken to showdown. If villain calls for example with A9s and the flop comes Q92, villains hand isn't slightly better but way behind. I would be interested in hearing your arguements to 3bet this hand as well zigzag? QTs has alot of play ability so by taking initiative from the beginning you can put alot of pressure on villain and try to make him fold the best hand by barreling with draws, get paid when making a hand, suck out or just give up when the board comes awful.
For example if villain has 88 and the board is K62 J you can fire a 2nd barrel and villain will fold the best hand.
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Originally Posted by: Jon_and_Liz U r from a HU background also right? Is this your same 3bet range for HU? I agree 3betting your best hands and the better hands u wld fold (That where i was going when i said a polarised 3bet range). But I just think QT is to crushed in general vs standard villian. Also (HU) im almost always 3betting KQ, AJ, TT and 99 vs anyone. I think hands like 67, 4-6s etc r much better to 3bet than QT tho. i have played most hu yes..
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